Maybe not!
We are born and then we die, so why not take any pleasure that we can in between?
Sorry DP – but I won’t be shedding any big tears for this man. His work was once quoted to me by my shitty county council as being a benchmark by which they further extended their policy of non-smoking in public areas surrounding Kelham Hall.Then you read his [Konrad's] bio:
Since the mid-1980s, Konrad combined his academic and clinical work with his passion for tobacco control, as a part-time activist but full-time advocate. His approach to advocacy was both opportunistic and unrelenting - "like water dripping on a stone... you never know which drip will crack it".It is hard to take this man seriously. Very hard. In life and in death.
As an academic expert he generated significant new evidence on the impact of smoking on vascular disease, particularly on stroke, and analysed the evidence as a member of numerous expert groups including the National Health and Medical Research Council's Second Working Party on Passive Smoking, an enquiry that the tobacco industry found so threatening they sought to gag its members through legal action.
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Smokers and tramps join 8,000 council surveillance targets
We have you in our sights.
And smokers are not alone in the game of fear…
Councils carried out more than 8,500 secret snooping operations on members of the public during the past two years, including spying on dog owners, fly tippers and loan sharks, according to a report published today.
Secret surveillance operations also took place against smokers, suspected benefit fraudsters, vagrants buying alcohol for under-18s and people repairing vehicles in the street.
There’s them pesky smokers again. Oh, and it gets worse…
More than 12 local councils used Ripa powers to spy on dog owners suspected of letting their animals foul public thoroughfares. Allederdale council in Cumbria used the powers to check whether a dog was wearing a collar and tag.
…and worse…
Kensington & Chelsea council spied on someone suspected of carrying out illegal vehicle repairs on the street, Gloucestershire on the suspected illegal movement of sheep and Great Yarmouth snooped on someone suspected of illegal tattooing.
…and worse…
Councils in North Norfolk, Chesterfield, Nuneaton & Bedworth, and Merton, southwest London, used Ripa powers to snoop on people suspected of lighting up in a no-smoking area.
…and…
The council in Newcastle upon Tyne topped the list of Ripa investigations, carrying out 231 operations between 2008 and 2010.
Councils also used the powers to spy on their own employees. In Darlington, Co Durham, staff were suspected of lying about their car parking and in Hambleton, North Yorkshire, and Hammersmith & Fulham employees were thought to be lying about being sick. The report found that 399 prosecutions resulted from the surveillance operations though in other cases people may have been given an on-the-spot fine rather than be taken to court.
Under the law 474 local authorities and 318 other agencies, including the Ambulance Service and the Charity Commission, can carry out surveillance operations.
Frightening, truly frightening…but are we becoming blasé about this?
After all, in another country, and in another era that, as the years fade into obscurity and recollections are dimmed by time and concerted efforts to eliminate the bad things of history in our media and in our schools and colleges it couldn’t happen again…could it?
Some younger readers might not know what I mean in that last paragraph, so I will elucidate:
Himmler
In 1936 Heinrich Himmler was made Reich Police Leader.Himmler was an enthusiast for Nazi racial doctrines and his appointment resulted in a more radical policy over asocials (as it did over a number of other issues).
In February 1937 he ordered habitual criminals and offenders against public decency (which included gays) to be sent to ‘preventive custody’ instead of ordinary prison. This meant the concentration camps. This was illegal at first but was made lawful in December.The criminal police were then empowered to arrest people who had not committed any crime if they could be shown to be unwilling ‘to conform to the natural discipline of the National Socialist State’. This included a very wide range of categories of behaviour including the ‘workshy’, the homeless, Sinti and Roma, gays, beggars, people (often women) whose sex life seemed irregular or irresponsible, prostitutes, pimps, people who refused to pay maintenance, and so on.
In April 1938 the first big wave of arrests occurred of people whose names were found in the records of local labour exchanges (jobcentres). [Ed: Records these days are called Databases, every council and government has one which makes it quicker to identify you than trawling through a paper database, and a pound to a penny YOU are on one!]
Godwin’s law I hear you cry! Well I would argue that once you invoke Godwin’s law then it is you that have lost the argument as you have gotten your ideal way out of continuing further debate about the excesses of government control. It’s your way of saying GAME OVER when you have run out of ideas to parley with.
I think we all have worked it out by now that most anti-smokers are ex-smokers that have exercised self control and the power of their own will by their own volition to stop smoking, who then turn out to be the most ferocious and rabid of anti-smokers.
The very fact that the ex-smoker used his or her intellect to make the conscious decision to refrain from smoking tobacco products and then say that smokers in their midst are addicts akin to junkies without the same conscious decision making mechanism they used is to treat them [the smoker] as lesser mortals than themselves, devoid of decision making processes. So their mindset is set in stone, they are superior to you because they gave up smoking and they think you cant, you are not as strong as them, you are weak, they are strong in mind, body and soul, you have no place in their society, full stop. It would never occur to them that you enjoy what you do, they have deliberately forgotten the enjoyment that they once had when they were smoking. Megalomaniacs crave control, and if, as a leader of a country, you can control smokers and something as mundane as smoking, then you can control anything, Nazi Germany was nothing if not efficient.
In our dim and distant past:
It seems that Hitler was a smoker in his youth but at some stage he became aware of its health hazards and, when in power (perhaps with the zeal of a convert), appeared to detest tobacco, which he called "the wrath of the Red Man against the White Man, vengeance for having been given hard liquor." But the antismoking campaign reflected "a national political climate stressing the virtues of racial hygiene and bodily purity" as well as the Fuhrer's personal prejudices. The same could be said of Nazi efforts to discourage drinking and encourage a better diet.
The state performer in antismoking propaganda was Adolf Hitler. As one magazine put it: "brother national socialist, do you know that our Führer is against smoking and think that every German is responsible to the whole people for all his deeds and emissions, and does not have the right to damage his body with drugs?"
Today:
I used to be a smoker. The first thing I did when I woke up at 6am was to reach out of bed, grab a cigarette and light up. It was my start to the day, every day. I tried several times to give up, but only lasted a few months before going back. During one of the periods when I was off cigarettes, I went to the pub. Somebody bought a round, then someone passed round a packet of fags. I foolishly took one – I'd had a few drinks – and the next thing I was a smoker again.
That was about 30 years ago, and I finally managed to kick the habit soon after that, partly because I met a woman who didn't smoke. We married and had four children. […]
In my view smokers who currently stand outside a pub or restaurant having a fag should have to stand at least several yards away from the front door, to save the 79% of us who don't smoke from breathing in their smoke when we go in or out. We should curtail the rights of the 21% and increase their responsibilities towards the 79%. In other words, we should stop them killing us and our children. […]
Smoking should be banned in cars, and particularly any vehicle with children in it. On a school visit I met a 12-year-boy who wanted to be an athlete who told me that every morning his mother lit up when she was driving to school, even though he'd begged her to stop. He should be able to report her to the police.
It should also be illegal to smoke at home in front of children. I accept that enforcing such a law would be difficult, but it would send a message that such behaviour is unacceptable. And shops should need a licence to sell cigarettes. They need a licence to sell alcohol, which is sometimes addictive and certainly harmful, just like tobacco, so why not? That would make shopkeepers less likely to sell fags to people under age.
Tomorrow?
The Grim Ripa pdf.
My emphasis throughout.
Hat Tip and many thanks to: Martin Edwards at the UK Column and Big Brother Watch
Smoking ban fails to curb the habit: Figures reveal men are smoking MOREAnd also in Scotland.
THE smoking ban has failed to persuade Scots to pack in the habit, we can reveal.And they say that smokers, who pay £10bn in tobacco duties per year, are a drain on the NHS? Good grief.
Government figures show the numbers of smokers are about the same as when the ban was introduced in 2006.
The UK National Smoking CessationForceConference attracts world-classjunk scientistsspeakers presenting the very latest injunk scienceclinical, research [talked to some numbties on the phone] and policy developments [we hate smokers and smoking and we will present this as a 'development'.]
This year, the UKNSCC [United Kingdom No Smoking Cessation in Congress] will reflect the latest developments in good practice for smoking cessation in special populations, [that means you and I, whereever you may reside] new indications for NRT, medicationforcecompliance, marketing and supporting tobacco control [it was NEVER about health] activity, and the impact of illicit tobacco.
The UKNSCC agenda is driven by [our hatred of tobacco, the users of tobacco and anyone that suports the usage of tobacco.] the involvement of the field and will contain presentations from practitioners that focus on the policy and practice offorcinghelping smokers to stop.
We hope that you will be able to join usin our hatred of all tobacco products and their drug depandant usersand to contribute to thisnot sounique event.
Just look at the delegates attending this junket:
The deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, is pressing ahead with his mission to roll back what he terms the "obsessive lawmaking" of the New Labour years. In today's speech to students at London's City and Islington College he said he wanted people to get involved in "our very own Great Reform Act". (Guardian)Don’t forget the hated Smoking Ban Experiment Nick, amendments are needed, now!
1999/2000 - £6.18m
2000/2001 - £8.97m
2001/2002 - £7.79m
2002/2003 - £7.87m
2003/2004 - £17.34m
2004/2005 - £24.0m
2005/2006 - £22.7.0m
2006/2007 - £13.5m
2007/2008 - £11.39m
2008/2009 - £23.38m
We smokers know what it is like to have our freedoms stolen from us, but we are not alone because there are government funded “fake Charities” out there that want to take the food out of your mouth! Every day some freedom or another that we enjoyed, but took for granted, is snatched by the government of the day from under our very noses. I’m sure you all can add your own freedom that has been taken from you. It is time that we all cried FREEDOM.
Over at Simon Clark’s blog they take our freedoms very seriously:
I am delighted to announce the launch of an exciting new programme of events. In association with the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA), the Adam Smith Institute, Big Brother Watch, The Manifesto Club and Liberal Vision, The Free Society - a campaign launched by Forest in 2008 - is hosting a series of debates entitled Voices of Freedom: The Battle Against Big Government.
Subjects include Economic Freedom in Welfare, Big Government is Watching You, Can a Big Society be a Free Society?, Hyper-Regulation and the Bully State; and Who Holds the Liberal Torch in 2010?.
The debates - chaired by Iain Dale (Total Politics), Claire Fox (Institute of Ideas), James Panton (Manifesto Club) and Mark Littlewood (IEA) - take place next month at the IEA in Westminster. Make a note of these dates: Thursday June 3, Thursday June 10, Tuesday June 15, Thursday June 24 and Tuesday June 29.
Speakers currently confirmed include Philip Davies MP; Steve Baker MP; Michael White, assistant editor of the Guardian; Ross Clark, author of The Road To Southend: One Man's Struggle Against the Surveillance Society; Dr Eamonn Butler, director of the Adam Smith Institute; Alex Deane, director of Big Brother Watch and former chief of staff to David Cameron; Dr Tim Evans, president of the Libertarian Alliance; freedom of information campaigner Heather Brooke; Chris Mounsey, leader of the Libertarian party; Josie Appleton of the Manifesto Club; and Daily Telegraph journalist Philip Johnston, author of Bad Laws: An Explosive Analysis of Britain’s Petty Rules, Health and Safety Lunacies and Madcap Laws. More speakers will be confirmed shortly.
Each debate begins at 7.00pm but prior to that there will be a drinks reception from 6.00pm hosted by The Free Society and sponsored by Boisdale of Belgravia.
Entry is free but strictly RSVP. Email events@forestonline.org or telephone 01223 370156
For more info please go here and here.
Freedom is more than just a word.
Action | Antismoking Extremists Say | Folks say | The Cold Sharp Slap Of Reality |
A Stranger Comes To Town | We are here to help, you can't avoid a ban because EVERYONE for the good of the children. is doing it, | We can decide what we want on our own properties, we can hang signs and let the public decide where to spend their money. | Antismoking Extremists think you are too stupid to know Big Pharmaceutical their lies because they said so. supports them, and they count on the fact that you will believe |
Battle Lines Being Drawn | We are not including the casinos and private clubs, so don't worry, you don't have to fight us. If anything, the ban will give you more business. | Nothing is said because there is nothing to worry about. You are still believing every little thing your new friends say. | As soon as the ban is passed, they will go after the casinos and private clubs. This divide and conquer technique works all the time. The Antis may demand the change themselves, or they will use mis-guided private business owners to do it for them under the guise that there is no "level playing field" which ends with no exemptions at all. You just got conned Bubba, they played you like a cheap fiddle! |
Smoke Screen | Let's include smokeless tobacco products in the ban. We don't want those horrid people to have anything. Let them buy Big Pharm stuff to quit smoking! In fact, let's tell them that "Cold Turkey" doesn't work so we can get every dime we can out of them and make our nicotine delivery products the only legal ones. | Nothing is said. You are too worried about the ban to notice the fact that anything about smoke shouldn't include smokeless products. | You let the next step of the Anti plan slide by. Shame on you. THE ANTI-TOBACCO RECIPE FOR SUCCESS 1. Choose an industry. 2. Regulate the industry. 3. Tax the industry. 4. Sue the industry. When one source of money dries up, return to Step 1 and repeat. By S. Phillipe |
Ban Is Passed | Gloat, gloat, giggle, strut. Now we can get away with anything. Cue up the next deep pocket! | WHAT?! That's not right, that's not what I voted for. This isn't what I thought they meant, what do you mean I can't smoke in my own one person office?!!! | This is when the Newsletter picks up new readers. Lots of them. They are very unhappy people who have to work thru the rage, depression, and finally agree that they got bamboozled by highly paid strangers with a packet full of junk science that it would have been politically incorrect for mere sheeple to take a close look at. Antis won't stop at a town, they will go for the state. Don't let them get a foot in your door. |
Patio Issue | Now we need to make more changes to the ban and tighten up the loopholes. Let's start with no smoking outside as well. | I should have the right to allow my customers to smoke on my new patio if I want. I spent a lot of money building it because you said I could! | You opened the flood gates. You can close them, or watch your business get washed away. Overturn the whole ban, or watch more and more bans come in until grandpa's business is closed. First it's inside, then it's outside seating areas, then it's on the sidewalk. |
Noise Issue | It's time to get rid of all the bars, or, ban all smoking on the sidewalk, for the good of the children. | You have got to be kidding me! Where did you think my customers would go to smoke when you banned smoking inside? | The Antis have you so far under their control now that you will waste your time and money in a fight about the noise issue, which you could solve easily by getting rid of the ban and letting people drink and smoke inside like they should be. |
Litter Issue | We need to ban smoking on beaches, in parks, everywhere those nasty smokers are littering. | Enforce the litter laws that already exist. We don't need a separate one for cigarettes, one for diapers, another for soda cans, etc... | The Antis are not interested in enforcing perfectly good existing laws. They are only interested in getting new laws put in to justify their incomes and paychecks. |
Economy Issue | Just like we said, now the non-smokers will come to your place of business and you'll do better than ever. | Where are the non-smokers? My business is going under! | Do I really have to say this? You bought into the Anti lies. So did the good folks on the Ban Loss and Ban Damage pages, and others. |
Car Issue | We have to stop those stinky smokers from smoking in their cars, for the good of the children. It doesn't matter if it's a convertible car and it is moving at 55 MPH. We can say, "Only 20 seconds of smoke exposure will kill them instantly." No one dares argue with us or we'll say they are a front for the tobacco company. No one is allowed to question us! | Hey, wait a minute, I don't have any kids! Even if I did, that would be up to me what I want in my own car, not you. | Remember, every new ban the Antis get on the books justifies their paycheck from Big Pharma in helping to make their nicotine delivery system the only one politically correct, or legally available. |
Home Issue | We've done the inside, outside, car, work and more... now you are not a good citizen if you don't agree to home bans! It doesn't matter if you own, or rent, or have a room in a nursing home, we will get our way. This is long past "safety" based on junk science, and all about MONEY. | This is my home, you can't do this. | Derr... what do you think I'm going to say next? Get rid of the ban! Stop it all. Don't let the Antis take your eye off the big picture by getting you stuck up to the neck in the muck of the little battles. Get rid of the whole Anti movement and the entire ban. Tell them you are still a free citizen and capable of making your own decisions about any and all legal products! |
Tax Issue | We need more money. We are making less from the MSA now because less tobacco is being sold. Some states want to cut our funding, there has to be someone to tell the sheeple what to do! You are politically incorrect if you don't do as we tell you! Raise the taxes to continue our good work! | The few of us smokers in town are already paying for the roads that everyone gets to drive on. This isn't fair. Every citizen should pay equal taxes! | So do something about it. Highly paid people quit when they are not being paid. Cut off ALL funding to the Antis at your local and state level. Do not donate money to groups that fund Antis. Make Big Pharma support them alone so when the Antis realize there is money to be made off Big Pharma in court, it'll be too late, and they will eat their own masters. |
Other Issues | Insert the insane claim and demand from the Antismoking Extremists of your choice here. | You can't do that. | So how's that approach there working out for you? |
Tell your town, city, county, state, or country that you are sick of this. You fell for it, but don't need to continue to fall for it. For the sake of the children, protect the freedom to use your own good sense where any and all legal products are concerned and keep the world free from overpaid petty tyrants. What kind of world do you want to leave your children? Read the Newsletter, send it to friends, and open the eyes of everyone. No matter what you like, if it's tobacco, booze, scents, food, etc... your freedom of choice is in danger. Do not let your legacy for future generations be that of a slave society filled with sheeple afraid to stand for anything, and falling for everything. |
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As the gruesome twosome transform themselves from feuding opposites to gushing celebrity bride and groom*, one has to ask the question, “what’s in the The Great Repeal Bill for smokers-and drinkers come to that-which has been pencilled into The Queen’s Speech this month?”
Should we in the anti smoking ban movement in the UK get excited? After all most Tories were against a blanket ban and favour a relaxation of it, but can they be counted on to fight our corner?
Well we should start with our newly elected bridegroom leader, David Cameron, who beats himself up over his past smoking habit and went on to appoint Andrew Lansley as his Health Secretary who:
Then there’s the blushing bride, Nick Clegg:
Nick Clegg is an occasional smoker, he has admitted.
The Liberal Democrat leader revealed his habit during a half-hour interview with politics.co.uk, conducted in association with Yahoo!.
Asked if he would repeal the ban on smoking in public places, Mr Clegg admitted the ban made him miss the days of smoking in pubs, but insisted he believed it was the right thing to do.
"I have a confession to make," he told politics.co.uk. "I do take the occasional puffs of cigarettes myself.
"I understand that if you do, the days of sitting in a pub drinking a pint and having a cigarette is something you feel very attached to."
But the Liberal Democrat leader insisted the ban confirmed to his liberal philosophy.
"One of the first principles of a liberal is that you allow people to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others," he said.
"Smoking is one of those classic examples where it's not a harm-free activity because it harms others around you and therefore I struggled with it a bit, but I voted for the smoking ban and I wouldn't seek to reverse it or dilute it." [My emphasis]
Will a case of common sense break out in the new, shiny ConDem party coalition? I don’t think Frank Davis holds out much hope of that, he can see a new Puritanism just around the corner:
In the same interview, Cameron spoke of his religious belief. And I could help but think that being "clean" and feeling "deep remorse" had religious undertones as well. Cameron was repenting of his ways, and had been backsliding into sinfulness, but now he had been washed clean of vice. He didn't miss smoking, he said. But quite obviously he did, because otherwise he wouldn't have dreamed about it.
Nip over to Frank’s place and have a read, it’s well worth it.
I think I have five years to try and work out that Rubix Cube. I’ll need to keep my hands occupied as more misery is heaped onto the smoker and I’ll need to keep my hands busy as I sit in a pub having a pint during the winter months as I can see no end to the pub & club smoking ban anytime soon.
*I’ll leave it up to you to work out who is the Bride and who is the Groom in this mockery of a marriage, you will have five years to make up your mind as the ‘pact’ is ‘locked in’ for that long.
It seems to me, in this great city, which boasts 1000 years of history and which serves the capitol of Belgium, the home of the European Union and the headquarters for NATO, this city has it’s own legitimate claim to that title [capitol of the free world].Also listen out for these two little words, COMMON PURPOSE.
On Sunday the 30th of May 2010 starting at 2pm F2C Scotland will have a fundraiser In Glenrothes. Music will be provided by the awesome band Stretch Dawrson and the Mending Hearts. they describe themselves as:
Scotland’s premier western swing band, a group of some of the best country/jazz/roots session musicians in the country.
If you are able to attend a good time will be assured.
Now I’m of to the online “learn yourself line dancing” website.
Money for old rope, and I mean to keep it that way!
MPs’ Expenses: There must be no Amnesty
Senior Labour MP Sir Stuart Bell said the Commons would be asked to approve an independent auditing body, which would be made up entirely of independent people, to oversee expense claim made by MP’s. If approved by the Commons, he said that this body would analyse ”every claim that is made“. On the face of it, this sounds like a positive move, however, as you might expect, there is a catch. Because, he also made clear on Channel 4 News that this body would only analyse “NEW” claims, that their remit will specifically exclude a retrospective review of prior claims. According to Bell, the setting up of this auditing body would demonstrate that MP’s are both “contrite” and keen that respect for parliament and democracy is restored. Is this man for real?
Does Stuart Bell really believe that the public will accept what amounts to a clumsy and inappropriate fudge. Ignoring past claims, which is what the public is so angered about, would amount to an amnesty for any MP that had been predisposed to lie, cheat, defraud, or deceive in relation to their expenses and/or allowances? Any attempt by Commons authorities to limit the scope of this, or any other independent auditing body, is tantamount to an admission that widespread abuse had taken place and they (MP’s) do not want further investigation. In other words, they want to draw a line under it and move on. Not acceptable. If, as they insist, everything has been “within the rules” then what have they got to worry about? The only way to restore public confidence is to have a truly independent auditing body trawl over past claims, perhaps for the past 10 years. Furthermore, if I was one of the many “honest MP’s”, then I would demand a proper investigation, if, for no other reason, than to persuade the public that there are many honest members of parliament.Here are just some of Bell’s expenses. Oh, and he pays his wife, Lady Bell, to work as his Office Manager:
Sir Stuart's wife, Lady Margaret, receives pounds £35,000 a year as his office manager.You, Stuart Bell, voted moderately for a smoking ban [don’t expect me to thank you for that!], when most of your constituents are smokers, they love their pint and a cigar/cigarette/pipe, I know because there are three clubs and four pubs around me in Priestfields, a working class estate where most of the [pubs and clubs] ‘clientele’ are working class smokers but you didn’t stick up for them, you abstained in a few places and in others you just did not bother to turn up.
Alan Silitoe, one of our finest writers.
LONDON—British writer Alan Sillitoe, whose "Saturday Night And Sunday Morning," and "The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner" chronicled the bleak postwar realities of the country's poor, died Sunday. He was 82.
Sillitoe, a leading member of the 1950s group of so-called angry young men of British fiction, was acclaimed for his uncompromising social criticism and depiction of domestic tensions -- often dubbed kitchen sink dramas.
The writer's son David said his father had died at London's Charing Cross hospital, but gave no other details.
Albert Finney starred in the adaptation of "Saturday Night And Sunday Morning," as a disillusioned young factory worker. In the "The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner," Tom Courtenay portrayed a young delinquent whose athletic prowess is seized upon by authorities as proof of their ability to rehabilitate troubled youths.
"He put somehow forgotten places at center-stage," British poet Ian MacMillan told the BBC. "He made the ordinary life into a kind of poetry."
Recalling his own modest upbringing in Nottingham, central England, Sillitoe once recalled the smells of "leaking gas, stale fat, and layers of moldering wallpaper."
In 2008, the author was bestowed with the freedom of Nottingham -- an ancient ceremonial honor that allows recipients to drove sheep through the center of the city. He had been due to join other recipients at an event to celebrate the city earlier this month, but was forced to withdraw because of illness.
Sillitoe lived briefly overseas with Ruth Fainlight, the American poet he married in 1959, but later returned to Britain.
In 2007, Sillitoe published "Gadfly In Russia," an account of four decades of travel through Russia.
Born in 1928, Sillitoe left school at the age of 14 and worked in factories. He later served as a wireless operator in the Royal Air Force, including in British-controlled Malaya, now Malaysia.
Sillitoe is survived by his wife and the couple's son and daughter.
RIP my friend, the anti-smoker nut jobs cant get you now.